Hi Premise Media!
I know you all read and monitor my blag, cause I see you on SiteMeter. I hope youre learning lots of fun things about endogenous retroviruses and American Staffordshire Terriers.
Anyway, its come to my attention that, unsatisfied with 'merely' stealing a small animation companys work (and money from Sesame Street), you issued a press release about your plagiarism that implied you were going to utilize litigation (curiously in Mega-TARDs backyard) to return honor to your good Christian name.
Now, I cant help but notice that the 'dude', 'cell biologists', or 'team of animators', the individuals who would have the most to lose by being unfairly labeled thieves, are not the plaintiffs-- Premise Media is. And I cant help but notice how after admitting you stole the animation, you think 'stealing' somehow involves free speech rights. But here is my challenge for you, Premise Media. A litigation-free way of clearing your name:
Upload the animation you used at the December 9, 2007 screening.
You made it. You own copyright, right? So upload it. Harvard has theirs online, so you cant possibly be afraid of anything. I dont care if it is a crappy work-in-progress, as long as it shows you were genuinely trying to do this on your own. So upload it.
If it is 'Inner Life', then take responsibility for your actions like big boys. Simply admit that you lied, you got caught, and take it out of EXPELLED (think of this challenge as a bonus for avoiding more litigation with Howard Hughes Medical Institute).
If its not 'Inner Life', then congrats! You made an animation identical to Harvards in approximately 12 days (8 business days!)! Took them about 420 days! YAY! Creationists are 35 times as smart as Harvard. Good for you. And you should have all your data behind you to back up that time-frame, including reasons for why a multitude of errors in 'Inner Life' also appear in your animation. HURRAY! You arent lying thieves. Everyones honor will be satisfied.
You have my email if you wish to direct me towards the video when you upload it. I look forward to resolving this issue.
Your Friend--
Abbie
Wednesday, April 16, 2008
Open Challenge to Premise Media
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I don't think you should hold your breath on this one (though they may want you too...)
Not gonna happen...of course, the IDiots who made this flick aren't interested in EXPLAINING any of the reactions or processes depicted in the animation they stole from. They just want to show it as "God's special effects."
ERV rules!
...good Christian name.
Mutually exclusive terms as applied to Premise Media.
You made an animation identical to Harvards in approximately 12 days (8 business days!)! Took them about 420 days
Have you never heard of the story of the loaves and the fishes? Spending a day with a creationist is like loosing 1000 days of your life.
My money is on them getting around to doing this about the same time they get around to sending me all that real scientific work they've done that proves ID over Evolution. My mailbox is actually surprisingly empty still, I was at least expecting some bible spam after my request for evidence.
hey ERV,
i've gotten so wrapped up in this drama, i've been hitting the refresh button on my browser every 5 minutes! have you thought about putting out an RSS feed?
My mailbox is actually surprisingly empty still, I was at least expecting some bible spam after my request for evidence.
You too huh?
Note to self: Never piss off Abbie...
Yup, me too.
Maybe they lost my email and need it again or something. How someone could read it and lose it without being able to get it back just by going to the comments section a second time is beyond me. I'll give it a few more days before I give up all hope of getting anything and just start using the new mail account for real.
For all you IDers, to re-iterate my call, I have asked for real scientific work, done by ID scientists, supporting Intelligent Design to be sent to asatruheathen333@yahoo.com
I'm not even a real scientist so if you have something that looks properly impressive you might be able to slip it past me, though I have an above average knowledge of science for my field of work so it's unlikely. I am also VERY hard to impress, so it'll just be easier to send the many papers you always claim you have.
-Ix
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Come on, Premise Media! I know a pair of cojones is too much to ask for, but could you maybe grow one ball? Just one?
jlt,
Those links are for the old Atom type feeds. To get the real RSS feeds append the links with ?alt=rss
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I think someone needs to go through the movie and try to match every clip that doesn't actually have Ben Stein in it to someone else's work; biology documentaries, history documentaries, old war movies, etc.
I wonder which part of "THOU SHALT NOT STEAL" is beyond the mental grasp of Premise Media?
thanks, anonymous et al. :)
This is way off topic but there is an evolution musical being performed in san francisco about the on going battle between darwinist and creationists. ERV if you're not doing anything may 6th....
http://www.mezzaninesf.com/calendar.asp
-Sarah
Friend?.... "Friend"????
Maybe "Your Sister in Faith"....
or "Yours in the Blood of the Holy Ghost"...
or even "In the Names of the Three Wise Men".
But somehow, I just do not think "Friend" is enough.
Rotflmao, when I first read the headline I saw this:
"Open Challenge to Penis Media"
That works...
I have no idea why Premise Media would want to bother with a stupid challenge like this. Where is the necessity for them to respond.
If ERV wants to make some claims about Pemise Media stealing, let her make them, and then they can all meet in court.
When did "Anonymous" become a synonym for "Mindless Dumbass"
Why would they do this when a prominent member of the PT-mafia refuses to substantiate his assertion that he was invited to a private screening?
John,
Thank you for your useful and intllectual comments.
Now please explain why Premise media would care at all about responding to this "challenge" from ERV.
I'll explain for you anon.
Premise Media and the ID people working on expelled are in deep legal trouble; however, if they can actually respond to this open challenge with a video that doesn't appear to be an illegal copy of the XVIVO video then they're in the clear.
If they didn't copy it there should be initial renderings they could use to show difference without even spoiling the animation in the movie by releasing it online before the movie is out. In all this open challenge is an easy and free way for them to avoid a lawsuit if they didn't do anything illegal.
It takes a special level of idiocy to goto court over something like this, even if you've set aside money to do so, when you have a chance to clear your name for free. That or it takes someone who was lying in the first place and has no footage they can use to answer this that wouldn't actually just prove that they copied their video.
I should clarify my last comment a bit.
Premise Media being in the clear only refers to the fact that if they can prove it's totally different, then they're free to release their movie without providing more evidence of willful and malicious infringement against XVIVO/Harvard. They're still screwed on the promo material as far as I can tell from my past law classes*.
*Not a lawyer, just required to take a few law classes specifically about copyright/copyright infringement and internet related law for my major.
William Wallace, how long are you going to continue with that erroneous assertion?
How big of a fuckwit does one have to be to not figure out that if PZ was lying, why did they let his guests in, when they all were registered in the same manner?
Because PZ is telling the truth.
ToddPT
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