Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Americans United and ERV

Last Saturday I gave a presentation at the Oklahoma Americans United for the Separation of Church and State conference on Intelligent Design in public school science classrooms. Unfortunately it was at 8 am the Saturday after a block of tests, but I think I did alright ;) Fortunately for you all, Damien, a member of Oklahoma Atheists, recorded the presentations and put them up on Google Video!



Yeah, so, the only weird part? You know at the very end, when a guy speaks up and makes a joke about Jesus? Yeah, that was PZ. The PZ. I didnt notice him until he said something because I wasnt exactly expecting to see him in OKLAHOMA (why I doubled over in embarrassment when he spoke up). He didnt RSVP, or if he did, it was under an alternate surname (not 'PZ'), or else we would have made him speak too!!

Im really starting to think PZ does have a gatecrashing problem...

21 comments:

Brian G said...

Damn, that was PZ?! I was there and didn't even recognize him! He blended right in with all the other guys with beards...

Susan Cogan said...

Wow! If that was PZ that makes me :-) The Trophy Wife!!!

Brian G said...

Ugh, it just occurred to me you must be kidding. I should avoid blog commenting right after I get up.

Mark said...

Are you planning to post the presentation itself? I would especially like to see the human-primate tree with erv evidence diagram.

Glend said...

Oh my, I don't mind PZ being the misbehaving type, but poking Xians in the eyes with Jesus jokes just isn't the way to keep the science in science class.

He'll do best if he doesn't start feeling a bit too important, let alone invulnerable.

Glen Davidson

Glend said...

Good presentation, by the way. My preference, especially in that venue, would not be to juxtapose evolution to religion, though.

It's pretty clear that the guy complaining that they're not going to stop with gutting science is correct, since Expelled is already trying to change history and our understanding of social causation in their movie (what they're really thinking is that evolution is evil, hence it is the source of modern evils). It makes sense, because you can't really be against evidence just in the matter of science, without that opposition to the use of evidence spilling over into every discipline, including our evidence-based justice system.

Glen Davidson

Lightning Rose said...

Was PZ really in OK? I only question because of todays date. :)

Glend said...

Oh yeah, I guess my #5 shows some suckery, but I would still say Jesus jokes aren't really the way to go.

Anyhow, I thought the BBC (if it's them) did a nice April 1 revelation of penguins that have evolved flight.

Glen Davidson

Bayesian Bouffant, FCD said...

Was PZ really in OK? I only question because of todays date. :)

You are right to question. PZ is forbidden by restraining order from entering the state of Oklahoma due to an insufficient degree of inbreeding.

Darek said...

Some clips from that presentation are sure to end up in Expelled 2: Inteligent Boogaloo, with Ben Stein ranting about how you're advocating the extermination of creationists.

Darek said...

By the way, did you snag a copy of this
yet?

Bill said...

Abbie said:

"There are real people, suffering real pain, in the real world and we shall stand up for them."

Abbie, I place my PhD at your feet. With that statement you are the Master and I am the student.

Everything pales to insignificance in light of that statement. I hope that in time you go into academia to inspire legions of students with your vision.

Well said. Well done.

ERV said...

LOOK! LOOK! Evidence that PZs wife is just as deceptive! Trophy Wife changed her surname AND her last name to gatecrash my blog!

:P

heeeeeeeehehehehehe Hi Susan! Everybody go check out her book, 'The Pocket Darwin'!!

April Fools everybody :P You all are adorable hehehehehehehehehehehe!

ERV said...

Darek-- Ya I got that!! Know how I found out about it? Myspace. Muse changed the music in their profile, and Myspace told me. One good thing that has come from *Myspace*.

Bill-- Theyre just words :) Unless I, you, we, translate those words into action, theyre just as meaningless as the crap Creationists spew.

I just want people to look at anti-science asses throwing their tantrums, and calmly say "No. Thats enough" and let kids have fun with science, and let scientists do their friggen jobs.

Darek said...

Yes, about the only things that myspace is good for are music and hot, white jailbait ass.

If you want more Muse live you should check these out:
linky 1
linky 2

minusRusty said...

"Chew toys for students".... Heh! I like it!!

Rich Hughes said...

Sassy!

Neil Davies said...

Hey Abbie, I'm a fan from the UK who just wanted to say hi - I really enjoy reading your blog (I think I must have found it through Pharyngula) - it's really inspiring to see you taking on the ID crowd.

Cheers :)

Peter Mc said...

That's because he's so important you have to ask him to RSVPZ.

Christopher Sisk said...

Very nice presentation. Well thought out and executed. Keep up the excellent work.

Anonymous said...

hmmmm I'm a Louisianian and used to drawl, but several years of talking about Cystatin B in front of scientific audiences I lost it. I enjoyed listening to you talk about science (er, and politics) with a nice subtle drawl :)