Tuesday, October 23, 2007

'Flock of Dodos' in OK, Update #1

Vic of Oklahomans for Excellence Science Education wanted to leave this as a comment yesterday, but of course, Blogger hates everyone, so he couldnt. Its okay! I think it deserves its own post!

Randy read about the adventures of Dembski at OU, and he wants to come to Oklahoma to present 'Flock'! Its not going to be for the showing this Sunday, and the dates not set yet, but I just might get to give Randy that tour of Explore Evolution!


And, some people were expressing concern that the Dembski Q&A posts were over. I want to assure you all that there is still much more to come! Does Dembski believe in common descent? Why is Dembski talking about 'Quantum Mechanics'? What does Dembski really think about undergraduates? And what the hell did the Art major ask? All this, and more... when I friggen finish my homework and lab presentation and study some more... *sigh* Ill get them out for you all to quote ;)

18 comments:

Blake Stacey said...

I, for one, am quite interested in finding out what Dembski sees in "quantum mechanics". I mean, the laws of quantum behavior say that outcomes are fundamentally random — measure a system, and you'll get an eigenstate, with no way to tell in advance which eigenstate it will be — and creationists have historically abhorred "randomness".

In Shakespearean idiom, "Chance! I hate the word, as I hate Hell, all Darwinists and thee."

Tyler DiPietro said...

We've really already seen Dembski's quantum flapdoodle before. He used it to claim that the designer could "impart information without imparting energy" (perpetual motion machine, anyone?) In other words, his usual nonsensical babble. I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what came up, the man has elevated the tiresome and predictable mantra to an artform.

Chris Noble said...

I vote for the next Q&A to be Dembski's rape of quantum mechanics.

ERV said...

lol! Excellent choice! He had Ian and I rolling saying 'Quantum Mechanical' over and over at one point hehehe!

dustin said...

Hey, tell Randy that Dustin sends his hate.

If we're butchering quantum mechanics, we could probably abuse the notion of time-reversal to have you send Dembski some of my hate, too.

Jon Voisey said...

I caught the Exploring Evolution exhibit while it was here at KU. It was pretty good, but frequently too wordy on texts for most people.

That's fine with me, but today's kids seem to require more of an audio/visual approach to get them to learn anything.

macro-ev aka post-scriptive-fucking -trivia said...
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dustin said...

You know, some of my engineering students had that exact reaction when I made them learn about the wonderful world of eigenthingies.

And, I have seen that particular rant before. He is just cutting and pasting from pre-composed screeds he's got sitting around. Now Abbie needs to clobber our cut and paste troll with an annihilation operator so we can see what kind of eigenvalues he spits out afterwards.

macro-ev aka post scriptive trivia said...
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Blake Stacey said...

FUCKING VASTLY UNSUSTANTIATED MOST POLITICALLY CORRECT AND POPCULTURALLY SOCIO-INGORANT INNUDATED RECEPTOR CONSCIOUSNESSES

"Fucking. . . Vastly unsubstantiated. . . Most politically correct and. . . pop-culturally socio-ignorant. . ." What the Jesus fuck? ". . . Socio-ignorant inn, er, inundated receptor consciousnesses. . ."

I do believe we have a Markov process troll! See:

uncertain scientific terms what really is being said here you have abso-fucking-lutely know what limited minds would call fucking begininnings by the knowledge and popculturally socio-ingorant innudated receptor consciousnesses called the obvious conclusions of fucking idiot brilliant you fucking insist you and explain in a global-philosophically circle jerk hard dick or clit long enough to support you fucking course means that you stupid shit you stupid son of anything is no uncertain scientific terms what is no uncertain scientific terms what the knowledge and popculturally socio-ingorant innudated receptor consciousnesses called the fucking asshole their simply because you fucking asshole their simply

Just the same.

Blake Stacey said...

Either that, or we just pissed off Kenji Siratori.

Tyler DiPietro said...

I can't sleep, what better way to relax than see that I have been subject to the incoherent ravings of the resident troll on Abbie's blog?

"Either that, or we just pissed off Kenji Siratori."

There is another possibility, which is that we've attracted the offspring of Kenji Siatori, J.G. Ballard and a POMO generator.

Annyday said...

Either these rants are random-genned, he's insane, or he's making an AMAZINGLY witty attempt to test the climate of the debate.

The last one would be awesome, no? He can start saying intelligent things all of a sudden, after weeks of ranting, just to shock us.

Dustin said...

Either that, or we just pissed off Kenji Siratori.

I believe that was, in fact, the ultimate zing.

Torbjörn Larsson said...

Dembski's rape of quantum mechanics

So Dembski is the Newton of quantum mechanics as well? Figures.

But yes, even if it is the old "my gods live in my quantum woo" it will be enjoyable.

Dustin said...

Well, to be perfectly fair to Dembski, he does have Isaac Newton's personality.

Bill said...

The original quote about Dembski was a typo.

The corrected quote reads that Dembski is the Alfred E. Newman of Information.

What, him worry? No, he be happy.

Tyler DiPietro said...

Dembski is currently the Deepak Chopra of Information Theory. Although his status is fast descending, pretty soon he'll be at the Dean Radin level. After that it won't be long before he's Sylvia Brown.