1-- THE Q&A
For god knows what reason, Trinity Baptists let people just ask questions. I dont know whether they didnt talk to their colleagues about filtering questions, or they just KNEW Jesus was going to be on their side, but the Q&A was good old fashioned FUN!
Which I wish he had admitted before my question. See, the major theme of Dembskis talk was 'evilution cant do this' 'evilution hasnt shown that', 'you know, if someone would just SHOW me the evidence, ID be an evilutionist!' The other theme was "POOOOOOOOOOOR MEEEEEEEE! POOR CREATIONISTS! EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET US!! I SUFFER SO MUCH BECAUSE OF MY MESSAGE OF TRUTH! POOOOR MEEEEEEEE!!!"
One of my major research projects is impossible, if Dembski is right. ERVs have nothing to do with common descent. According to Behe, my other research project is impossible. I might as well pack up the lab and go home. But if I could only SHOW them evidence of HIV evolution, THEN they would be an evilutionist, right?
So when Dembski wouldnt take Dr. Philip Klebba's offer to actually hear the evidence for the evolution of the bacterial flagella, I decided to ask a different question than the one I originally intended:
"I do HIV research. A while ago I wrote a critique of Behes 'Edge of Evolution'. You all didnt respond with 'science.' I was invited to UD to discuss HIV evolution, and after 3 posts I was banned. I was then sexually harassed and threatened, and slandered on your blog. ID Creationists talk so much about how theyre martyrs and theyre persecuted-- if youve got so much science on your side, why do you have to go after a grad student like that?"
Dembski replied that he knew I was trying to embarrass him (no, I was pointing out to everyone that youre a liar and youre a bully) but he didnt follow the exchange, other people ran his blog.
To which I replied "Maybe you werent following this discussion because you were busy composing fake letters from the president of Baylor."
Ladies and gentlemen, the look on Dembskis face. The look on Dembskis face was priceless. Jaw on the floor, eyes as big as saucers-- the audience roaring with laughter. After bumbling for a minute, he said that was another topic. He then suggested that I link to the discussion on my blog and people can see how bad we are and how bad you are (my cue to smile and bat my eyes at the audience).
"Oh I already did. My blog is endogenousretrovirus.blogspot
Dembski "Yeah your ERV." WAIT A MINUTE! TIME OUT TAMPA BAY! I thought Dembski didnt follow this chain of events on his blog? ROFL! Magically knew my handle! AAAAAHAHAHA!
Me "Yes, Im ERV. I also study endogenous retroviruses and how they relate to cancer" (another cute smile to the audience). At which point I head back to my seat. But Dembski wont shut up! "Well I was gonna close UD in 2005 cause I didnt have time for it but I kept it open and know I have some hard line people at my blog and you run your blog how you want!"
Well the pwn train just keeps rolling. Student after student after student-- It turned into a party. The audience heckled Demsbki when he wouldnt answer questions. We were laughing before, during, and after his answers.
Finally, the Creationists had had enough. Somebody had to stand up for Jesus.
"Im just so disappointed in OU students and how closed minded they are!!!"
Dembski made it perfectly clear at that point that the attacks against me were no accidental oversight. Dembski used this Creationist as an opportunity to attack the students that were exposing him as a fool: "Well dont be so hard on them. Theyre just sucking up to their professors."
This comment turned into another awesome joke against Dembski, because another student came up to ask why ID Creationist found it necessary to promote their ideas in school boards and high schools, NOT in the scientific arena. Suddenly, the man who moments earlier had suggested college and graduate students were too dumb to understand Evolution vs Creationism and were just 'trying to impress their professors', was appalled at the idea that high school kids were 'too dumb to understand evolution.' The student kicked ass-- "Its not that theyre dumb. Im not qualified to talk about the Big Bang, but that doesnt make me dumb." Nothing meaningful in Dembskis responses.
But the evening didnt end there. There was a small, unexpected epilogue.
** Edit 9:15 pm, 9/18/07-- I forgot to add, when I mentioned I did HIV research, Dembski jabbed "Youll have a job for a long time." Thats when I went from amused at Dembskis tap-dancing to angry. "I can assure you I would be the happiest unemployed person on the planet."
God hes an asshole.