Monday, August 13, 2007

College Deconversions

hehehe PZ and Jason have posts up about kids deconverting when they go to college. This is just a fantastically funny personal joke for me.

  1. As regular readers know, I didn't know 'Creationists' and 'Fundies' were real until I got to college. hehehe I was as sheltered as a Fundy kid LOL!
  2. My welcome party to Oklahoma was attending a radical Christian hate rally (against science, atheists, education, everybody) lead by Creationist Brad Harrub. He made a BIG deal about only letting kids go to *special* colleges, otherwise they'll deconvert. I laughed.
I knew a couple kids in biology at Truman that made it through Fundie-fied (went to dental school, I believe), but I learned about Creationism from a girl who deconverted from Fundy to sane theist. By the time we got to upper level biology classes, we were making jokes at Creationists expense regularly.

hehehe Poor Fundies. Cant catch a break. But one thing that really irritated me was PotF insistence that EVIL ATHEIST PROFESSORS were foisting their RELIGION on poor, defenseless good Christian kids. No. Religion was never brought up in any of my classes. Not even in philosophy. My philo prof went to Notre Dame, but he played Devils Advocate and sided with me so many times, I could have sworn he was an atheist-- But Ill never know. Dont know the religion of any of my biology professors (though I heard one was an atheist- I never had him, and one was a Mennonite).

Again, poor Fundies. Cant stand the thought that kids are deconverting because Fundies are NUTS... It must be because of Evil Atheist professors. HA!


Aaron "Hawkeye" Golas said...

I didn't find out that my sophomore philosophy professor was a humanist until my graduation. Although in hindsight perhaps I should have suspected it, considering we used Darwin's "The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals" as one of three core texts, hehe.

Foxy said...

Recently, I found out that two of my friends have actually become more religious over the course of their first year. But in both cases it seems to have stemmed from them hooking up with very Christian boyfriends ^.^

minusRusty said...

"sane theist"??!!!!?!?!


Shawn Wilkinson said...

I didn't know fundamentalist Christians existed until I dated one, lol!

But in all seriousness, someone/something is "to blame" for becoming less associated with traditional/conservative/orthodox Christianity. I think "leaving the nest syndrome" coupled with an environment conducive to contemplating does it.

But I don't hear too many "atheist conversions". It's more like formal Bible-thumpers in high school becoming Christian humanists.

ERV said...

"...Christian humanists..."
lol! They try! Id rather deal with a whole boatload of Christian humanists than one damn Fundy Freak.

Wes said...

I "deconverted" in college, too.

I was raised fundamentalist in Oklahoma City in a very strict atmosphere. Fundamentalist Christian private school; church at least three times a week; books, music and television heavily censored, the whole shebang.

I tend to be disagreeable and opinionated personality-wise and was already drifting away from fundamentalism in my teens. I didn't fit in well at all in that kind of atmosphere. I was still quasi-Christian when I started college (I was at the "each religion is its own way to God, but Christianity is the best" stage of losing one's faith then), but by the time I graduated I was full on raving infidel. Learning and knowledge had a lot to do with it, but just as important was just getting out of that suppressive atmosphere I'd known for most of my life. Once I actually had some breathing room and wasn't being constantly bombarded with fundamentalism, it was easier to examine my own beliefs and stop believing things if they didn't make sense. Fundamentalism survives by controlling the information that reaches its adherents. If that control slips away when the adherent is still young, it often lose its grip.

Losing your faith is a really unpleasant experience. Some of the lowest points of my life so far were during the times when I started having very serious doubts about some of my deeply held beliefs. I understand why people avoid it, and I sympathize with them. It's just too bad that many people would rather shun their doubts and isolate themselves than risk having to deal with some unpleasant ideas. The fact that I tend to be a combative person probably made it easier for me to break away from religion. People who are more social or more emotionally needy would have a much harder time than I did. Religion comes with a built-in social network, and some people just can't give that up.

I still keep my (lack of) beliefs secret from my family, though. I really don't want to get into a major falling out with my relatives based on nothing more than a disagreement over the invisible man in the sky. There are more important things in life than God.

Gerald said...

If you've ever seen the commercial for Falwell's Liberty University they make the claim of "Send your kids to our good Christian school instead of some godless university." Basically isolate them from the real world.